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  • abeyk · 2 hours ago

    too realistic

    • daredoes · 1 hours ago

      I won by just grinding and touching grass

      • abeyk · 1 hours ago

        sad reality of life

        • vinceguidry · 16 minutes ago

          Sounds like someone who has never touched grass. ;-p

          • esafak · 11 minutes ago

            He's just got a case of the Mondays.

      • pantelisk · 1 hours ago

        Really fun project, but doesn't take ageism into account, it gets easier the further you get whereas it should get be getting harder in certain ways

        • _sys49152 · 27 minutes ago

          like family/personal time balance... neglect, and you get a message your teenage daughter is pregnant or your son joined a gang. game chugs along...

          • oalae5niMiel7qu · 8 minutes ago

            ...and then you just get fired one day.

        • q8zd3 · 1 hours ago

          only did grinding and side project. got acquired. if it were that simple..

          • DoctorDabadedoo · 1 hours ago

            Nice! Had a burnout, a kidney stone and was laid off before even hitting 25! Sounds about right.

            • FlowSt · 1 hours ago

              RAT RACE · ACQUIRED sold the company at 25 · walked away with $7.36M · peak burnout 71%

              That was fun. Side-projected spam, touched grass once, YC, Side-project one more time, launch, acquired.

              • goodpoint · 1 hours ago

                Now make it 10x more difficult for those not born in the US.

                • calculatte · 21 minutes ago

                  Maybe you haven't seen the state of things in the US lately...

                • ayaanh03 · 1 hours ago

                  9.6 mil acquisition cash out we are so back

                  • gh0stmach1ne · 1 hours ago

                    Neat, but font choice makes it extremely hard to read the text on mobile. Even harder when it's under the CRT style screen effect.

                    • yieldcrv · 1 hours ago

                      RAT RACE #1 · ACQUIRED sold the company at 28 · walked away with $10.17M · peak burnout 100%

                      • sscaryterry · 1 hours ago

                        RAT RACE #1 · DECEASED* *dead at 25 · $164k unspent · the on-call rotation already updated

                        • paxys · 1 hours ago

                          My vesting cliff somehow hit after getting fired lol

                          • LPisGood · 1 hours ago

                            I have a friend who got laid off and had that happen.

                          • xmprt · 1 hours ago

                            Game seems to be heavily weighted towards building side projects. If only you could build a single side project without raising any funds and get acquired for 10M with an 80% cut...

                            • abeyk · 1 hours ago

                              this is possible now with AI

                              • georgeecollins · 1 hours ago

                                Really? I did great just alternating between "grind" and "lay low". Retired with $4.8m at 25!

                                • preommr · 5 minutes ago

                                  This seemed to work best.

                                  Unexpected given what I know second-hand about the valley - which is to grind leetcode and keep job hopping.

                                • JimsonYang · 10 minutes ago

                                  Well thats your problem, everyone knows you got to apply to YC to get funded

                                • ge96 · 1 hours ago

                                  No option for the rat to bite you, you get rabiz, sue and cash out?

                                  • omicronxt · 55 minutes ago

                                    RAT RACE · ACQUIRED sold the company at 30 · walked away with $14.98M · peak burnout 94%

                                    did i win???

                                    • jongjong · 48 minutes ago

                                      On the end screen, it shows "Shareholder value created" with some huge number.

                                      I find this unsettling because it hints that the people who built this game are more naive than I am. And this is a game about a cynical topic.

                                      It reminds me of the narrative "No matter how bad you think it is, reality is worse."

                                      The idea that the engineer is creating "shareholder value" is part of the conditioning. They're creating complexity and literally running a hamster wheel. Even more so than the game suggests. Lighting fires and putting them out. They are lucky to have this job where you can get away with this kind of pure performative engineering. Seriously, Netflix looks exactly the same as it did years ago. Same with Facebook. The fact that they have so many users and make so much money has nothing to do with engineering and everything to do with attention monopolization and incentive structures among investors to circulate money between companies that they have a stake in.

                                      Working for a bootstrapped startup; that's real value creation because there is enormous risk involved and no engineer wants to take that risk.

                                      Of course the value creation goes away as soon as the startup raises funding because then they become part of the club and the risk is taken out.

                                      Working for FAANG is more like being appointed to the king's court. The king's fool is not creating any economic value for the average working citizen... And the line for that job is long. Being chosen is not based on skill or talent. Talent is abundant. It's a kind of lottery.

                                      • elzbardico · 36 minutes ago

                                        Or maybe it is just sarcasm.

                                        • jongjong · 21 minutes ago

                                          Maybe. Probably. It's hard for me to perceive sarcasm these days. I'm becoming just like the neoliberals I used to criticize who gets triggered at the slightest thing haha.

                                          It's like if someone made a joke about genocide. That's how certain topics make me feel. My brain refuses to process.

                                          That said, I do think a lot of cynical engineers have a "Rat race" worldview and not the "Hamster wheel" one.

                                          Also, the amount of money which is needed to retire in the game is huge! I'm not even expecting to reach that at retirement. The fact that someone believes they can get this in a few years of grinding reveals a very cushy worldview...

                                          What I would do for that kind of money...

                                      • xboxnolifes · 47 minutes ago

                                        I'm not sure what the run it back button is doing, but it consistently manages to cause a graphical bug where all of my open firefox windows fully grey out until I refocus on them. Never seen that before.

                                        • Exoristos · 42 minutes ago

                                          Just use Chrome like a normal person.

                                          • bearjaws · 26 minutes ago

                                            "How come Google keeps making Chrome shittier :^(" - People who say this

                                        • hassanhjk · 47 minutes ago

                                          I love how mind said “the offer says it’s the beginning of a journey but it’s actually a wheel”

                                          • DhawalModi · 42 minutes ago

                                            RAT RACE #1 · ACQUIRED sold the company at 27 · walked away with $13.32M · peak burnout 84%

                                            Gotta go grind out some AI B2B Agentic project now...

                                            • Onavo · 36 minutes ago

                                              The hard part for B2B is the sales not tech. You are better off wining and dining a sales guy as your co founder than doing more vibe coding.

                                              • DhawalModi · 10 minutes ago

                                                I try to resist the urge to vibecode, but yes agree on sales

                                                • oalae5niMiel7qu · 3 minutes ago

                                                  The hard part is even knowing what someone would pay for. I don't know if a sales guy knows that or not.

                                              • qurren · 41 minutes ago

                                                Maybe add a non-US-citizen mode where if you are ever unemployed for more than 2 cycles you lose, unless you already have a side project with enormous traction

                                                And if you are a US citizen and get randomly get thrown into a group of mostly non-citizen coworkers they will grind like hell due to the above, and if you don't grind extra hard you get the PIP faster, because you're stack ranked against them

                                                • nico · 40 minutes ago

                                                  That was fun! Although I was automatically retired, with $1.7M in net worth. That’s hardly enough, especially in California. Maybe the game should ask for a goal number before starting

                                                  • elzbardico · 40 minutes ago

                                                    Just like real life: Alternate moments of grind with moments of "strategic disengagement" (touch grass).

                                                    Accepted a voluntary leave with a generous severance, then, used the cushion to ship relentless on side project. Ended up with 7.1 M offer that netted me 6.7 million.

                                                    • morelandjs · 39 minutes ago

                                                      Man, I hate that tech has just become money. Content like this perpetuates it.

                                                      • omoikane · 26 minutes ago

                                                        I like how retirement progress is tracked in a "freedom bar". I have heard that amount of money being described with a different f-word.

                                                        • himata4113 · 20 minutes ago

                                                          I think this would be a lot more fun if there were different "starting" charasteristics.

                                                          High starting money, but low tolerance for burnout. Poverty, but extremely high tolerance for burnout. Can't find a job debuff. Low skill, grifter, false promises, lie to win. (Rolling chance to end up in prison). High skill start, low tolerance for burnout. ADHD debuff. Picking the opposite option of what you want debuff.

                                                          Also advance game by 1 month instead of 3 months.

                                                          • Grosvenor · 14 minutes ago

                                                            Heavy drug wars vibe. I love it.

                                                            • _sys49152 · 7 minutes ago

                                                              y38q3 metaphase wants to buy me out for 500mm, my cut is 700k. my portion of the cuts get smaller as time goes on. final net worth 2.50mm. i either retired or died at 60

                                                              • chknkachunga · 6 minutes ago

                                                                I wish I could laugh at this. It hits a little too close

                                                                • dzonga · 5 minutes ago

                                                                  I don't know if I should feel sad or laugh at the pain at the same time lol.

                                                                  what a wonderful way to reflect reality for a good population of devs.

                                                                  you can hack the game i.e real life

                                                                  1. live in a cheaper location 2. do things that don't scale & do the ugly work

                                                                  that naturally extends your runway, you don't need to apply to YC

                                                                  remember the median Pay in the US - is 61800 based on ADP the largest payroll provider.

                                                                  so before aiming for millions aim for 85K. yeah a far cry from the FAANG wage - but one - you will never get laid off.

                                                                  85K - you can live everywhere besides the coastal US cities comfortably.

                                                                  • oalae5niMiel7qu · 5 minutes ago

                                                                    Whether you can score a remote gig without a cost-of-living penalty affects your ability to achieve FIRE. If you're in the Bay Area at only $200K, you're on a treadmill.