echoangle · 8 days ago

But do people really count 2400 ants manually?

mindfulmark · 8 days ago

also the french word for ants, fourmis

DANmode · 7 days ago

> some help from AI tools

You forgot to read the post.

DANmode · 7 days ago

Perfect response.

“Why isn’t this a CLI?”

because your mom still exists.

pooloo · 7 days ago

> When we were using Hypercard or BASIC to make dumb little programs, we weren't learning any of that stuff either, really.

> Making apps is so complicated now

Well that is not entirely true, I recall trying to learn game development. A lot of the time I spent was searching posts on web forums or asking questions in DAL/EF/Free/etc net and getting told to learn how to ask a question... not only that but I had learned it was better to write games not engines. Though I still managed to find out about GDI, which led me to DirectX, OpenGL, and then SDL. Those were scary... This is also when I learned about modding games, specifically Half-Life modding, which for some reason led me to creating bots for Counter-Strike just because I could and that is when I learned ladders are really difficult.

seba_dos1 · 7 days ago

> They're 13.

So? It's 13 years, not months. They're perfectly capable of learning that stuff by now.

> Making apps is so complicated now

I haven't noticed. Why do you think it's so complicated? Making things with GTK, Qt, PHP etc. seems even easier now than it was two decades ago when I was 13 and learning this stuff. Browsers are picky with JavaScript from local files, but these days you can just launch a HTML file with Electron. There's even Lazarus if we wanted to closely replicate what I was learning with back then.

protocolture · 7 days ago

I learned heaps from making dumb VB6 winform apps I have no idea what you are talking about.

Part of what I learned was "Dont try and make games in dumb VB6 winform apps" but thats part of the process.

vector_spaces · 7 days ago

Speak for yourself (re learning)? Lots of young ppl are curious and determined and willing to dig into the guts of a thing to understand how it works.

I agree re LLMs lowering the barrier of entry generally being a good thing, but I also find it disingenuous to present this as anyone's work at all, really.

All of the copy on the page (e.g. the "Made with <3 for X") reads to me as empty mimicry of 2018-era coastal tech, and not something a 13 year old would have much context for at all. The tech itself feels like a very simple CRUD app. There is nothing wrong with that and many useful and interesting applications are just that, but I also know that this app is borderline trivial to generate/vibe code in a handful of prompts nowadays

I am sorry to be a downer! To be clear, shipping alone is a hurdle, and that counts for something. Also, not every work needs to be novel or demonstrate outstanding creativity or copywriting skills

But one element of making things that's overlooked is taste. I think that's what is missing here for me -- it's not really transparent which choices were made by the LLM and which were made by the kid.